Thursday, October 10, 2013

Our Transition of Faith

Everyone knows the story about our political ups and downs, if you don’t you can read back to the beginning of our blog. But what no one knows, and what we didn’t expect to come out at this time is the story about our religious transition.

Recently, a door opened that offered Carl an opportunity to run for the Utah State Legislature, a position that he once held and thoroughly enjoyed. My first instinct was to say, “H*ll no!” But, since I don’t use that sort of language, I settled for, “I know you’ll make the right decision, Dear.”  Then I went into a three hour lecture on how simple and sweet life has been this past year.

Our Utah House Representative recently accepted the position as Lieutenant Governor, which means that his seat is now open for someone else. Being a person with much political ambition, Carl’s phone immediately blew up with calls from political friends as well as those in the media wondering if he was going to run for the position.

I’ll be honest; the pull to politics is strong, even for me. I enjoyed the five years he was in the legislature.  It was a wonderful opportunity for our entire family as we grew leaps and bounds in our knowledge of the working government and the issues. We developed many lasting friendships as well as a strong sense of patriotism. It was an amazing overall experience.

The Congressional loss brought about a different kind of opportunity for our family. It taught us humility. Faced with multiple options at the time of the loss, we decided to make decisions without really seeking God’s help. Boy, did He teach us! He allowed us to stumble to an all-time low in order to convince us to look up and say, “God, you are in control.” As soon as we accepted this knowledge, the doors opened for the right path that we needed to follow.  That path brought us to Gunnison.

Fast forward a year, and now we are faced with another open door to politics. What a tricky spot to be in as we have questioned whether this is a test or an opportunity. Ultimately, and with much faith, we have decided that this is not the right time. However, God works in mysterious ways, and this wasn’t all for nothing.

I mentioned that the media has been inquiring about his status. Salt Lake Tribune writer, Paul Rolly, finally reached Carl and asked about his religious beliefs of all things. Specifically, “Have you left the LDS Church?”

The answer is yes. Yes, we have left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormonism. We did so this year, but looking back, the process that got us here has been ongoing for many years. It wasn’t that we were lazy in our religion or faith, nor was it because we were offended or desired to be sinful. The reasons are much deeper and varied but won’t be shared at this time. Rest assured we have felt God’s guiding hands through the entire process.

Most of our family and some of our friends already knew about our transition, but many close and very dear friends did not know. We were not trying to keep it a secret; rather we were waiting for the right opportunity to tell others.

Some of you will be shocked, possibly hurt that we have made such a decision. Those of you who are active and faithful members in the church will sincerely question why, but you may hesitate to ask in fear of learning our response. A few will choose to believe we have been misled by Satan. The day I told my family about our decision, my brother posted a picture on Facebook of the “Kool-aid” man in jest. There’s no doubt that we will be watched closely by many and even judged by some. But there will also be those who are going through a personal crisis of faith who will reach out to us for help.

Although our political beliefs in individual liberty and freedom are as strong as ever, this was not the time for us to enter back into politics. However, the door was opened for a reason.  We would love to share our testimony of faith to those who are seeking a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.



K Max said...

Carl I wish you and your family the best. I can't say it does not break my heart but I know God loves us all and wants to be happy. We have known each other since we were in Kindergarten and I have never judged you by your faith but by the content of your character. I think about all the Late night talks we use to have when you were a Granite School district officer assisting in South Salt Lake. I truly do hope you find the happiness you seek, God Bless you friend and your family!


Laura said...

Well, Carl, I too wish you and your family the best. As I read this message, my heart sank, more for your children who will have to follow your decision until they reach an age to make their own choices. I am sorry for whatever brought you to this spot in life. I have to agree that Satan is pulling harder than ever on the family unit in all ways. I am not saying you follow Satan. I am saying he has a way of making things seem know all this.
I am very saddened but still believe you are a great family. I believe I do not want to live in Gunnison for fear what that means, since Sherry didn't want to discuss it at this time.
Anyway, good luck and I hope we still continue to have a fun time on FB with all the goofy things going on in the world, in our state and our communities.

Carl & Sherry Wimmer said...

Laura, I guess I should clarify, Gunnison had nothing to do with our transition. My decision to not share specifics was not because they are bad or fearful, but because it was unnessessary at this time. Also, our children are well informed on this and were offered the opportunity to continue to attend the LDS primary but chose not to. We aren't brainwashing them as you may wonder, rather we give them the information and tools that are useful to their own decision making. The same information that you might be missing. We appreciate your concern, but we have chosen the path that God led us on.

Anonymous said...

Praise God!

angela meyer said...

Praise God! My family has recently left the lds church after discovering very disturbing historical issues especially concerning Joseph Smith. Luckily, we were led directly to the Lord.
Good for you. It's a tough and not very popular step but, you're not alone.

Anonymous said...

God bless you ! many of us need help to make what you have done ; but to the end is a personal problem. Congrats !

Anonymous said...

That's exciting news! I know that the change must bring personal and social challenges. I admire your courage in following where He leads. God bless you and your family, and I know you have, and will have, a wonderful walk with Him as a family. Thank you for sharing!

Kaisie said...

Wimmers, Thank you for sharing your story. We love you! Jason and Kaisie Alba:)

Carl & Sherry Wimmer said...

The outpouring of love has been tremendous! Often, when members leave the LDS Church, they not only leave religion, but they also leave faith. We were blessed with years of love for Christian music, as well as Christian friends outside the church, so we had an easier transition than what many others experience. Our message to those who are inactive in the church, or who have left for one reason or another, is that there is hope and peace found in Christ our Savior.

Anonymous said...

I came to your blog from a FB friend who has recently left the LDS church. It's a little disturbing that K Max is giving innuendo that you are no longer following Christ and thinks you are possibly being lead by the devil. Disturbing that those still involved in the LDS church say this to so many people that have left and have discovered the real Christ and not the one invented by Joseph Smith. K Max apparently did not read or it went over their heads that you have found Christ and are following Him. It can't be more clear than that. You follow Christ, not satan. Praise God that yet another family has come out of the bondage or Mormonism to freedom in Christ!!!

Jackie said...

You are in my prayers and many other's prayers as you and your family take this fantastic adventure with the one true God and Savior, Jesus Christ. May God's strength and peace continue with you and may you be a strong witness to those still in bondage.

Anonymous said...

I don't know you but I read your story, and I think it is fantastic for your family that you followed the path chosen for you! Stand up for what you believe in, or don't believe in, and stay strong! I too believe that there are many out there that will judge you for your decision, and its simply because they're afraid to think there could be something else! You are doing the right thing for your children in teaching them what YOU believe in, not an organized religion! Good for you!!!

Anonymous said...

Praise God! I left almost 2 years ago! It has been a glorious journey. Unfortunately, my husband didn't leave with me. Nothing compares to the promise we have in Jesus. God bless you and your family! I wake up every day and think Thank You God for saving me. He is mighty to save!!

Exie said...

Praise The Father, and congratulations, for it was through HIM that you have been "delivered" to the true Christ. "All things are delivered unto me of my Father. Matthew 11:27" The true Christ, who's "works", are the most suffecient to cover ALL sins. "For by grace (love) are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." Christ Yeshua has DONE the WORKS, and we reap the reward, "For Heavenly Father so loved the world that he gave HIS only begotten son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16." Just as I was an insterment in HIS holy hands, you also will be. Through your testamony, many others will be led to Christ. May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to life in Christ!!!

Anonymous said...

Carl, I applaud you and your wife's decision to leave the Mormon church. Many have left, but are not in a position to be public about it. You are giving hope to thousands of Ex-Mormons who are in the closet.


Lisa Sumsion said...

Ken and I are two of those friends that you mentioned who had no idea and Ken just talked with Carl the other day. We are very shocked and surprised. And of course we feel sad because we love you and we love the church and we hate to see you leave it. It also makes me sad to see other people posting here with comments which are negative about the church and imply that we don't believe in the one true Christ. I am a Mormon and I DO BELIEVE in CHRIST and I find it very un-Christlike to put down and insult someone else's religion and belief. We don't know why you have left the church but we hope to talk with you and hear your story to understand your feelings. We love you very much and will continue to be your good friends.

Anonymous said...

Carl and Sherry, I can't express the joy I feel for you and your family! It's wonderful to share our worship of Him each week with all of you. For Lisa above; you wrote " I DO BELIEVE in CHRIST and I find it very un-Christlike to put down and insult someone else's religion and belief". Lisa, Jesus actually did that very thing when He rebuked the Pharisees for their false beliefs and teachings.

Praise God you have found truth! God bless.

Lisa Sumsion said...

Yes, Anonymous, Jesus did rebuke the Pharisees but it is Christ's gospel and he is the head of it. He is the Savior and is a God. He knows all truth and the hearts of men. Plus he is our judge and he is all knowing and perfect. Since none of those things apply to me I don't have the right nor does anyone else to put down or insult someone else's religion. Sure, we all have our understandings of things and different knowledge but we should lovingly teach others and invite them to come unto Christ. Christ invited all men to come unto him and he commanded us to love our neighbor as ourselves. It is required of us to love and forgive all men and women. And since Christ is no respector of persons and loves everyone, I think we should all strive to do the same. Maybe you don't believe in Mormonism but you should at least try and respect our desire and sincerity to do what is right and keep the commandments and love God.

Anonymous said...

Lisa, I sincerely hope I didn't offend you. I merely pointed out that Christ did, in fact, do what you said was "un-Christlike". I agree, when reaching out to others, we need to do so in *Love*. To do otherwise, would be un-Christlike. The Apostle Paul said it nicely here; Romans 1"1-4.

Anonymous said...

I meant Romans 10: 1-4 Sorry.

Anonymous said...

The more I study history, economics, faith, Christ, His kingdom, Science, salvation, repentance, covenants, war, Law, politics, etc. The more I KNOW that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only true and living Church on this earth, it is led by Christ and it is His Kingdom of God on earth..I'm sorry you apparently don't see it that way, which is very strange to me (and yes I know of most of the criticisms folks these days claim about the Church) . However, I also know there are only two churches ultimately, Christ's and Satan's it sounds like your still on the right side.. see you in ZION!

Keith Grover said...

Hey guys! As your seat mate, Carl, in the legislature for a few years it was awesome to see you first hand voting on principle and drawing clear lines in the sand in protecting liberty and freedom. It was an honor and I learned a lot about you, your integrity, the way you care for others. There are many things that I KNOW you have done for others but remain private. As far as your choice of religion, can't say it really matters to me much, nor should it to others IMHO. Each is to follow the path he/she feels is their path - that is the beauty of freedom. Looking forward to great things from the Wimmer family!!! Keith Grover

Anonymous said...

I am curious who this other Christ is that the Mormons don't believe in. How is the Mormon Christ different from the Christ that other's speak of? I thought that there was only one Christ. I know that the Christ that the Mormons believe in suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane for all of our sins and was crucified on the Cross. He was laid in a tomb and 3 days later was resurrected, his body reuniting with his spirit.

Carl and Sherry, I find your courage to explain your situation very inspiring. Whether I agree or disagree is not important but the fact that you need to explain yourself and then go through the judgment of others takes courage. Standing up for WHAT YOU BELIEVE takes courage and that is what is inspiring.

It is equally inspiring to see the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints stand up for what they believe too. It is sad to see some take advantage of this moment and attack the LDS Church, I am sure that you did not write your blog to invoke others attack. I do find it funny that in one breath they preach tolerance and in the other breath they attack. As I am sure you have heard before... the members are not perfect but the Gospel is. I am sure we can look at anyone that professes to believe in Christ and find imperfections. That's because none of us are perfect, Christ was the only perfect one to walk this earth.
I'm also confused when I hear people say stuff like you don't need organized religion, all you need is Christ. Organized religion fulfills a purpose, even Christ was organized by calling the 12 apostles and prophets to preach the Gospel.

I don't think by leaving the Church that you are bad people. I think you have strong moral standards and will continue to be great people and raise good kids, unless of course you start to follow satan and then there's a problem. :)
Good Luck in your endeavors.

Anonymous said...

I do not know you but thrill with you that you have found your way out of Mormonism. Many years ago as nonmormon at BYU I discovered that the Mormon faith was not what it claimed to be and turned to the God of the Bible. I married my Mormon fiance and a few years down the line he too found Christ. I pray that God will lead you ever closer to Himself and rejoice with you!

Carl & Sherry Wimmer said...

I don't see "attacks" aimed towards the LDS Church, what I am seeing though, is differences in doctrinal beliefs and opinions being shared. And this is going both ways. Just because someone does not believe the same as you and points this out, it is not necessarily an attack.

Anonymous said...

The Apostle Paul speaks volumes here; Romans 10:1-4

"Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, *but not according to knowledge*.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and *going about to establish their own righteousness*, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For *Christ is the end of the law* for righteousness to every one that believeth".

We must always remember, the Bible is the *living* Word of God. Paul was addressing the Romans here (speaking of the Jews), but, as In all books of the Bible, it is written for any and all who are reading. Anytime....anyplace. There is much wisdom in every word here. God bless..

Anonymous said...

Lisa, I wanted to follow up on our earlier comments. Not to be contentious, but just to give you something to think about. You wrote; "I don't have the right nor does anyone else to put down or insult someone else's religion".

Actually, it is our duty (as Christians) to address error (with love, of course). Here is a scripture which gives us that right/Duty. Jude 1:3 "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should *earnestly contend for the faith* which was once delivered unto the saints".

Carl & Sherry Wimmer said...

We appreciate the thoughtful comments by everyone!

angela meyer said...

Joseph Smith was the first Mormon to attack other religions stating in his supposed first vision: Pearl of Great Price Joseph Smith History 1:19 'I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were ALL wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight.' LDS missionaries go door to door claiming that bible believers beliefs are an abomination in the sight of God. That sounds like putting other beliefs down to me. The LDS leaders haven't been forthcoming with their history either and has led millions astray. Do extensive research and really think about why a religion would ask it's members to NOT ask questions concerning it's history etc.. God wouldn't lead us astray; that's why there is ridiculous amounts of evidence supporting the bible. Take bias feelings out of it and look at the FACTS.

Jared Christensen said...

Carl and Sherry and Family,

We love you and always will.

Jared C

Anonymous said...

A response to the person singed T.

You wrote; "I am curious who this other Christ is that the Mormons don't believe in. How is the Mormon Christ different from the Christ that other's speak of? I thought that there was only one Christ".

T, Gordon B. Hinckley said the following when asked if Lds believe in the traditional Christ;

"No I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the dispensation of the fullness of times".

Here, Mr. Hinckley is admitting that Lds do not, in fact, believe in the Christ of the Bible. The Christ of the Bible is the Creator of all things. He is not a created being. Not a Spirit child of God (created). The Christ of the Bible IS God. 1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory".
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".
Revelation 1:8 - "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty".
2 Corinthians 4:4 - "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them".
Matthew 1:23 - "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us".
1 John 5:20 - "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life".
Isaiah 44:24 - "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself".
1 Timothy 2:5 - "For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus".
Isaiah 43:11 "I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no savior".
John 14:9 - "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father"?
Isaiah 44:6 - "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God".
Isaiah 43:10 - "Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me".
Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

There are hundreds of verses showing Jesus is God. NOT a god. Please, seek TRUTH.
God Bless

Anonymous said...

I am a descendent of Peter & Elizabeth Shirley Wimmer with a boatload of pioneer ties to Scandinavians in Sanpete. I hope the best for you cousin. I just wanted to encourage Carl to continue studying the LDS faith just to verify that you are on the right path. I have to say that my 2 main gripes about the Church are the imperfect members and my own misapplication of the teachings. The more I study, the more I believe. I consider that in many ways the members fall way short of our potentials but thank heavens we can keep on trying. Best wishes cousin Carl to you in your pursuit of truth.

With all the love I can possibly convey to you, your cousin

Anonymous said...

Laura wrote;

"As I read this message, my heart sank, more for your children who will have to follow your decision until they reach an age to make their own choices. I am sorry for whatever brought you to this spot in life. I have to agree that Satan is pulling harder than ever on the family unit in all ways. I am not saying you follow Satan. I am saying he has a way of making things seem know all this".

I find these comments to be very disturbing.

Carl & Sherry, may God continue to bless your family in all aspects of life, as bountifully as He has in blessing you with truth!

A friend in Christ,

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